Week 7 Post Show Vlog

Time Travel/Hatch Theory

So a few of us have been batting around some ideas, and I have been lazy and never posted them. So it goes like this. When the Hatch/Swan Station blew it knocked the island off of the time line by a small almost unnoticeable amount. Evidence being, when it blew the sky turned color and there was a humming noise similar to it. Now that in and of itself isn't enough but also remember the doctor who washed up dead before he was dead, and Daniel's payload was late to arrive, but it wasn't off enough to change things like the camp on the beach being built. Either the Swan was a station to move the island, or one to keep the island locked in place. It might have been a "two-key" system, like how a nuclear sub needs two keys to launch a nuke. This part is all speculation but I think that the swan needed to difuse the energy required to move the island if they needed to move the island they would not difuse the energy and then go to the Orchid Station and move the island.

This is not all my theory this is an effort of myself, Travis and Ford. Ford was actually the one who had the "lightbulb" moment that brought everything all together.

In response to Aaron over on the sidebar there: I didn't read the IGN article, but I was talking to someone (Bob maybe?) about Faraday's father.

Personally, the evidence we have right now, my guess is that Widmore is definitely his Dad.

My biggest argument for this is the girl who Faraday messed up with time travel who is now laying partially comatose. Widmore is paying for all of her medical treatments after Faraday screwed her up.

We're led to believe that he's paying for her medical care because he was trying to get Faraday's research (presumably to get back to the Island) but there may be the double meaning of Daddy taking care of his sons' mistakes.

Yeah yeah, we all know Widdy wants to find the Island but he's also shown that he cares about his Childrens well-being (albeit a bit misguided sometimes).

Plus it's only right to assume that Daniel has a Dad, and whoever that Dad is had some form of relationship to Hawking, who we're all pretty sure was on the Island.

The only other thing I can think of is that Daniel is his own father, and he banged the hell out of his mom, Oedipus in Time =)

The Numbers

I have a theory. We now know that the island moves through space/time at specific intervals that can be predicted using chalkboards and equations and a giant pendulam. Now the first time that Dharma sent a team/person to where they believed the island would be they would have no way of confirming or denying the people were there. Therefore the original Dharma crew transmitted the numbers from the radio tower, that Russou changed, to confirm they were successful because just transmitting "We made it" is a little to obvious. I may be wrong about the reason why they are transmitting the numbers but i think they tie into the equations to find the island.

The O6's Return

Different post = different topic

I can't take full credit for this idea behind this post (Lostpedia forums), but it's likely we'll have more character centric episodes for at least a few episodes. The ones we've had lately are loosely character centric.

Here they are (and a theory or two)

Hurley flashback - Who told Hurley to get on the plane? He has a guitar with him, an obvious nod to Charlie. I think it's the images of the dead survivors (oxymoron, woot) that tell him to go. We know he's seen Mr. Eko, Ana Lucia and Charlie. haha, maybe they have a ghost intervention. He reserved 7 extra seats too, right? Who else died, Libby makes 4. Boone and Shannon is 6 and... oh yeah, Michael. So maybe he reserved the seats for them, ooooo weeeee ooooo!

Kate flashback - What happened to Aaron? More importantly what happened to him that made her want to have sex with Jack? Even more importantly what needs to happen to her for her to have sex with me? Don't have any theories about her really, mostly cause I don't REALLY care about her, haha.

Ben Flashback - Who's ass did he kill? I think we may be led to believe that he killed Penny... and if not, think about it... he needs to kill Penny, he's down at the docks... which house boats... which is what Penny and Desmond float around on. He can't kill her from on the Island and he went to fulfill a promise to an "old friend".

Sayid Flashback - Chelsea pointed this out to me, looks like they needed someone on Ajira who was in custody (see: Kate). Other than that, why is he in custody? And of all things, custody heading to Guam? Did he kick one too many asses?

Frank flashback?- He's so much cooler with the scraggly beards n' shit. I hope when he goes back to the Island he doesn't look like an older version of Job playing Virtual Reality games with Pierce Brosnan. But the pilots did both die, Matt Parkman by the Smoke monster. Other than that, we don't REALLY need a Frank flashback. It's like having a Nikki and Paulo episo.... oh, shit. I hope Frank isn't brutally killed off.

That random other guy flashback (the dude from Vantage Point) - what's he doing there?

Locke Flashback - See: Next weeks episode.

So those are my thoughts, feel free to pipe in with any of your own

(SPOILERS) If you don't like Promo talk

Wasn't sure if people here mind talking about the Promo's.

ok, so Coffelt got me thinking (among other things)



So based off of the Promos, Locke is alive on the Island again after returning... does this mean that someone who has been on the Island before who dies off of the Island revert back to living as soon as they come back? Kinda like when you die in Braid (wonderful game btw) and you press the rewind button to do it again.

Confused?

Steps
1. Live off the Island
2. Go to the Island
3. Get off the Island
4. Die
5. Get taken back to the Island
6. Go back in Time in a sense and go back to living

Conclusion: Going back to the Island brought Locke back to life

There's also an apparent mirroring of Locke/Christian of course. The whole proxy deal for instance.

(Side note: Backgammon coming into play again, Christian had Jacks white shoes, Locke has Christians Black shoes... WHITE AND BLACK, ZOMG!!!)

This may be a little out there, but let me know what you think. The Oceanic flight crashed, and Christian woke up, wondering where he was, but alive; when just a little bit ago he was dead. He wanders about for a little while and eventually happens upon the Cabin and Jacob or the black smoke, or the temple.

Yeah yeah, there are a ton of holes in that, but it would explain why there was no body in Christians coffin. Where we were originally led to believe he was never in it or his body was taken; it's actually because he walked away from it, living.

Just some food for thought.

In the promo for next week they show Locke's foot for a second. In that shot, he only has 4 toes.

*GASP!*

Official LOST Podcast

For any of you podcast listeners here is the link to the podcast with the show's executive producers (Damon and Carlton). I thought this week's was good and it has me even more excited for next week.

LOST Podcast

This episode reminded me of something from a long time ago.

How far Jin has come since this:

Goriest episode of LOST ever?

I can't think of one that was worse. First, we see an arm get ripped off, and then see the same arm decayed several years in the future. That wasn't nearly as bad as seeing Locke's bone sticking out of his leg. How did that get past the censors? What if my kids were watching this show?

Post Show Discussion

Post Show discussion from the watch party
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Ryan
John
Dan
Sheena
Travis
Matt

This Place is Death quick hits

Much better than last weeks episode. Confirmation of all of our suspicions that Dr Hawking is Daniel's mother. I believe we've seen the end of time travel. They don't need all of them to go back, or do they? The preview for next week looks incredible. Daniel told Charlotte not to go back, so maybe time travel is not dead or maybe the time slip stopped not at the current time.

Last week's Post watch podcast

So it turns out it worked... here it is

Maybe I'm Alone

I think last weeks episode was a stinker. There were two revelations, Russoue and Jin. That was it, nothing effecting the storyline. I know the enivitible, it was a set-up episode, but it felt like season 3 wrapped up in an episode, the wheels were just spinning for this episode.

New Theory

I'm going to start off by saying that I didn't come up with this. However, none of us have even mentioned it and it could be something to think about (credit goes to a couple of writers at IGN.com).

Could the sickness Rousseau was referring to be the "time sickness" that Charlotte/Minkowski/various other people have exhibited? For that matter, would that mean she or her team got caught up in the time warps?

I personally don't think she or her team get caught up in the time warps. However, if the sickness is the same thing, I'm thinking she just saw someone exhibiting the symptoms and freaked out. Maybe instead of blowing someone else's mind with the time travel statement, Faraday just tells her that it is some sort of disease and she goes nuts and kills her team.

Looking back at some of the older episodes, she says that [she thinks] the Other's are the carriers of the disease and that they have a cure. Could the cure possibly be something to stop the "time sickness" in some way (Claire did get injected right....forget but that may have some play)? And again, are the original Others (or Hostiles) be immuned to this and thats why Alpert has lived for so long?

So....any thoughts about this? Possible but not likely? Or nothing at all/doesn't really mean all that much to the show either way? Again, I was kind of paraphrasing what all they said (article here: http://tv.ign.com/articles/951/951916p1.html ) .

Some Quick Initial Thoughts On S. 5 E. 4, "The Little Prince"

-This was probably my favorite or second favorite episode of the season so far. A lot of new information and we found out Jin is alive. Plus, we finally get to see some back story on Rousseau.

-How did Jin flash through time, but the freighter he was on did not? Could it be that because the freighter was man made it stayed behind? Why didn't the debris he was floating on stay back too? Was it because he was touching the debris? Is that why the guns from the past transferred too? Carlton, Damon, are you reading this?

-It was pretty obvious that Ben would be the one who hired the attorney. He has the best motive for doing so. I was shocked when Claire's mom opened the door to that hotel room, but that whole scene was put in there just to throw people off, I guess.

-Who did the guy that attacked Sayid work for? Probably Widmore, but we still have no proof that Widmore is trying to harm or capture the Oceanic Six. He may have had Sayid's wife killed, but we don't know why. Could there be a third faction involved? My feeling is that there is. Could this be why Sayid stopped working for Ben? Maybe he found out that the people he was killing had nothing to do with his wife's death.

-The boats that we see in the future are how the Oceanic Six and friends come back to the island. They fly back on Ajira Airlines and either crash near the island or do some sort of water landing. Why do they have two boats? Well, the plane probably had some crew members on it and possibly some other people. And you also have Ben and the Oceanic Six. Yes, I think Ben comes back to the island with the Oceanic Six. It would be a waste of his character if he didn't. Who was shooting at them? I don't know. I'll think about it.

-Miles is the baby that Dr. Chang is holding in the premiere. I did not like this theory at first, because it seemed kind of racist, but now there is actual proof for it. The nose bleeds are happening in the order of arrival on the island. Charlotte was probably born there before Miles and Juliet arrived before any of the Losties. They're all going to start having nose bleeds eventually.

-They introduced a lot of new background music in this episode. Was I the only one that noticed that?

More thoughts later after I review the episode.

Week 3 LOST Party Roster

Travis
Ford
Coffelt
Ryan
Matt
Sheena
Amanda

Also this is the first time we streamed the party online at ustream.com!