Changed opinion after rewatch...

I just re-watched the episode and I think we are off track on some things....

First off there was a lot of talk about the relationship between Faraday and the woman in the hospital bed. We also had some thoughts about who 'Ellie' the British woman who walked Dan out to the h-bomb was, and her relation to everyone was. I'm gonna break it into two parts.

Teresa Spencer



This was the woman who we first saw in the photo from Dan's old lab. This is the same woman who is in the hospital bed when Des goes to find her. We had some theories that she might be Dan's half sister. I really think that this is wrong. I think the main reason we came to that conclusion is because of the conversation that Faraday has with Ellie on the Island. In the conversation that Des has with Teresa's sister she speaks of Dan not like a brother at all and she mentioned that their father had died five years ago. I suppose it is still possible that their moms are the same person but the more I think about it, it just seems to circumstantial. As for Ellie.

Ellie



I am even more convinced that this is Dan's mom. The conversation that they have as they walk out to the bomb is about why Dan is looking at her funny and he says that she reminds him so someone "He used to know." This was the comment that made a bunch a people think, OH! she looks like the Teresa! She is gonna be her mom!
I think this is the wrong conclusion. I think he is using this line as a cover for "You look like my Mom, because you are." The "real Romeo" line that Ellie uses is more of a like, Ha! His mom thinks he is romantically interested in her.

As for Ellie being Ms. Hawking well. I'm totally convinced of that. Ms. Hawking knows about time travel, a lot. I think we can thank Dan for telling her that it exists in this episode. She is in LA, we know that because at the end of episode two she is talking to Ben who is also in LA. Dan's mom is also in LA (coincidence?). Finally when looking for this picture of Ms. Hawking I searched 'Hawking' on Lostpedia and it came up with the name 'Eloise Hawking'. Sorry if that is considered 'SPOILER' but it got me too. Okay well I hope some of this makes sense in some way and I look forward to seeing what you guys think.



-Travis

Jughead thoughts

Let me preface this with this: this episode was awesome. Finally, giving up answers that they've been promising to do for a while.

That said, I am not a huge fan of this new time travel element. It seems to open up some holes problems/holes that are kind of hard to explain. The best example I can come up with is this hydrogen bomb (which works a bit better than my Locke/Alpert one from last night). My problem is there had to be an original time to the story. The first time through time, the bomb had to be fine on its own.....it didn't blow up (or the island wouldn't have been there for DHARMA or our survivors) and it wasn't necessarily buried in concrete. However, later Faraday goes into the past and tells them what to do with it and from then on through history, it is buried. But if Faraday hadn't have gone back, would it still have been buried?.... would it possibly have blown up at some point? However, I do like the ability to see what happens in the islands past, which leads me to one of the biggest reveals yet....

Charlie is still alive!! Not really (and if it does end up being the same person, I'll be upset). The actual surprise is Widmore used to be in the island.

Now, I am assuming that Widmore was one of the "Hostiles" that were fighting with DHARMA. But he seems to blame Ben specifically for something; his exile from the island, his lack of being in charge. Whatever the case may be, it lead me to these rapid-fire possibilities:

-Ben got to the island in the 70's. The Purge was in the early 90's. Was Widmore still around for the purge? Probably not because he wouldn't have had time to build his company. But at what point did he leave?
-Penny seems to be around 30...could she have been born on the island? If so, who is her mother?
-Out there possibility: I agree with McG that there is a good shot that the girl with the gun could be both Ms Hawking and Faraday's mother, and that the lady in the coma is his sister. However, could there be more to the fact that Widmore is taking care or the sister?...perhaps that it is his daughter?....which would mean Faraday and Penny are (half)brother/sister (they did pick an actress that looks enough like Penny to work). Do I beleive this 100%: No. Is it completely out of the realm of possibility: Not at all.
-If Ms Hawking is indeed Faraday's mother, Widmore has no clue she is working with Ben....if he did, there is no way that he send Desmond (and Penny) straight that way. Ben has already said he's going to kill Penny.

Not as rapid as I thought. Last thing I found kind of interesting: Richard is old and everybody knows it and just accepts it. Still no reason on why or how he is so old, but Juliet just kind of shrugs it off.

Trailer for next week looks awesome, but thats a different discussion.

First thoughts of S5E3 'Jughead'

First and foremost, this was a great episode.

It had all the stuff that I love about LOST.

First off we had a new set of people on the Island who we were not sure the identity of. I am still really loving the jumps in time and how it can be used as a device to reveal things about the history of the Island. There was of course the big reveal of the episode...

Widmore used to be on the Island back in the 50's. SO SWEET!

I was literally pacing the room and at the end of the scene everyone looks over to see me standing on the couch. What can I say, I like the show.

I love what that little tid-bit could mean for the history of the show and I can't wait for it to flesh out further. Then there was the whole H-Bomb thing. This was interesting, no question, but I think that it will mean a lot more when tied to something later in the season.

The last on Island thing was where Locke meets up with Alpert and tells him when he will be born. This of course ties in to past episodes where Alpert was making multiple attempts to get Locke on the Island.

As for the off Island stuff we were focused on Desmond's story the whole time. It was great to see that Penny and Des had a son and it was nice that they named him Charlie. Desmond's search for Faraday's mom helped him learn how involved Widmore had really been with his research and this connection also makes me question Dan's loyalty. I thought that the interaction between Charles and Des in the office showed a very different side of Widmore and I am still thinking Ms. Hawking (the white haired lady from the end of last week's episode) is Dan's mom.

I also think that the young woman who held the gun on Dan at the H-Bomb could also be Ms. Hawking. If both were true then it would mean that was his mom... Woah.

Okay I should quit before I am up all night. Looking forward to the other posts.

-Travis